My pareidolia knows no bounds.

While it's true that "magnifying" a given image isn't going to increase resolution at the pixel level, it does do something moderately helpful. It allows you to find small macro features (like a hole in the cliff wall) that you might gloss over while looking at the un-magnified image.

rd
[/quote]

I'm appreciative that you went to the length above to show a good example of this issue and the point is well received. In your quote here, you highlight when a magnifier (in several forms) can sometimes be used but I agree, not the right tool to closely examining on a focused upon data point for the reasons you state. I guess I meant to say this would be useful just to "pinpoint" the local area to establish where this condition is in fact - occurring.

What is critical here to understand and to establish, is the fact that what we are seeing here in a number of area data points, is geologically impossible, as the processes involved in creating both a <i>crater</i> and a <i>cliff</i> are completely different and cannot share the same precise surface area. Close maybe, but actual surface space,as seen in the data below - impossible

So, logically, either the crater is NOT a crater or the presumed cliff is NOT a cliff.

In addition, gravitational forces will come into play (as on Earth only to a lessor amount) in the process of mass wasting. In this, we should be seeing many instances of talus accumulation. Although, for discussion here, this point is really secondary and only supportive to the main find above.

So, from my perspective I see that the areas which appear to be geological "cliffs" are in fact, not cliffs but some unknown phenomenon. This is also compounded by the strange shapes and possible contrived designs of the buttress faces. And lastly but certainly not the least, is the very real "PERCEPTION" that the visual interpretation portrays a "confusing" multi dimension compilation - high strangeness!


The images below are clips of a couple of data points in question.

[/URL]
Although somewhat contentious, also seen is a contrived insect head (slightly turned) integrated into the buttress wall here.

[/URL]

For perception of scale, the White House is super imposed in correct proportion.

[/URL]

Malcolm Scott

Suppose the rock comprising the cliff fell out of the sky and landed in the crater?

LB

Located along the surface of the Malas plains (some 400km south of Hebes Chasma) is an astonishing area with some of the most interesting topographical anomalies on Mars described as "Light Toned Layering".

At close magnification of these numerous surface features and their "interior buttress formations" I can't help picturing a form of "dwelling" here. The interior formations (in 3D) capture some very strange facial and figurine like compositions.

In the image below taken from ESP_025310_1690 and rotated clockwise 35 degrees, metallic like canopy shapes comes into play. Here, what I initially thought was a fracture in the data is ONLY visible in the anaglyph, one can see the multi dimension of the surface convoluting in various depths. After placing the image in Irfanview and using the edge detection tool, it soon became apparent that the edges of the presumed fracture were in fact, NOT lining up and in many instances, the debarkation line would actually "follow" the undulation of the topographical departure line.

Also of interest here is the intensity of the surface pattern designs. Upon close up, the Pareidolia people can have a "hay day" in this region, but they would be wrong (IMO).

What I see, are beautiful surface designs and they are quite ubiquitous. The designs are consistent in style and proportion and exhibit an amazing pictographical rendition of an intelligent mind (again, IMO). Just spend some time with this and creativity will reveal itself.

[/URL]

[/URL]

Malcolm Scott

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />Suppose the rock comprising the cliff fell out of the sky and landed in the crater?

LB
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Interesting proposal, what makes you think they could have come out of the sky?

Malcolm Scott

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />Here are a few locations circled, there are more if you need them.

If you are using Windows 7 or 8 the screen magnifier works quite well...

[/URL]

Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Before we move on to something else, I'm not prepared to say I agree there is anything all that unusual here. Maybe they are cliffs in a crater, and maybe they aren't.

But even if there were, here's how it could happen:

The craters formed (happened) millions (billions) of year ago. Then what ever caused the cliffs to be formed happened much later. What's the big deal?

rd

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br /> you will begin to "see" that they are "floating" where the terrain at the "base foot" of the terrace is actually NOT continuous and in fact, is "under-lapping" the terrace wall. It's a hard thing to put into words frankly but I can assure you, this is the case.
Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Good luck trying to convince anyone of that. But I'll tell you one thing, I'd love to be a fly on the wall when you tried.

rd